Raptors vs Parrot?

[cham87]

I am interested in seeing any studies that show what the difference in intelligence are between a raptor and a parrot?

Does anyone know or have any links that they could share?

[marie83]

No idea but you've given me an idea for my college project if theres any info out there. If I find anything I'll post a link.

[cham87]

[dorp]

like a Velociraptor? I don't know but god help us all if parrots figure out how door handles work

[liz]

Dorp - that one was funny but for a different reason than you suggested.

Myrtle can open doors that are not latch tight.

[Ryan416]

This might be impossible to answer as birds, reptiles and some fish have been the only creatures to survive from the Jurassic period. I would assume parrots are more intelligent as they have found a way into our hearts and homes, I don't imagine a raptor would receive the same treatment over the last thousand years.

All joking aside, It really depends on how you measure intelligence. I think adaptability indicates a high level of intelligence, for example humans were able to adapt to changing climate and use tools rather then grow claws. Some birds are able to remember faces, sense emotions, recognize themselves, even use tools to acquire food, as well as migrate and communicate socially. This puts them right up with apes, dolphins and... us.

[cham87]

rap·tor (rptr)
n.
A bird of prey.

[Michael]

Raptors are intelligent in they own way but we give highest regard to parrots because their vocal and social intelligence is most similar to ours.

[kittyhazelton]

Some of my wildlife education/trainers I know would say that Raptors are not as intelligent in comparison to parrots, this is why...
Raptors are perfectly designed to do one thing: hunt & kill. They are not "flock" animals, and do not rely on each other as they are generally solitary (with the exception of mated pairs and corvids.) The need to learn & mimic other animals through vocalization is not a survival trait they possess. They don't typically need to learn "tricks" to get food as they do not forage, instead they rely on the instinct to hunt & kill using incredibly sharp eyesight and pin-point accuracy during some incredible aerobatics.
They just don't learn the same way parrots do, simply because they don't need to. They are predators and good ones at that.
Put it this way: If parrots were dogs: Loyal, lovable, friendly, always eager to learn new tricks, then raptors would definitely be cats: independent, stubborn, a little wacky, and for the most part perfectly content ignoring us.

[dorp]

I never understood why bird owners are so quick to quantify intelligence for their parrots. Even Michael will say that "intelligence is relative" but turn around on that and call parrots "highly intelligent. I still have no idea what you even mean by "parrots training humans" in any real, non-ironic way like you've mentioned to me before and to your classmates during your presentation. For once I would just love to hear you say, Parrots aren't that smart or something indirectly suggesting it. You've said that even goldfish can be clicker trained so what makes parrots so different other than their ability to mimic sounds?

Theory: Parrots are wild, non-domesticated lizard creatures that can easily be manipulated by positive reinforcement but lack any cognitive abilities such as problem solving outside of severe conditioning. Categorizing parrots as intelligent animals is misleading. /theory