Help!! my conure threw up!!

[jennynomi]

I have almost 3 month old pineapple green cheek conure.. yesterday I rode truck with him (i don't know the gender so I will just call it him..) and he started to bob his head and threw up.. it was very smelly.. it smelled like sour yogurt or milk... and I never fed any diary food to him... so I thought oh he must have a car sick on truck because he never did that before in any other cars he rode.. and after that it was totally fine until today like 30 minutes ago. He did it again! It smelled awful.. same smell as yesterday... mostly black seed comes out I think it's from the food and yellowish white stuff comes out...

I'm really worried right now.. and the avian vet is kinda far away and I don't have a ride right now so I can't do anything except worrying Please Help!! Is it serious???

Right now my bird is totally fine it's VERY active (he never stops...) and poop is fine also... He looks healthy but still I'm very worried....

[Wolf]

If your bird is throwing up as opposed to regurgitating then it is very serious, indeed.
First, what do you mean by riding truck and how often does this occur? Also you mention him riding in other cars, how many are you speaking of ? At 3 months of age I can't think of any good reason for him to be in a car except to go to the bird doctor, So if he/ she is out in cars very much May I inquire as to why and where does he go?
May I ask what you are feeding this bird and when do you feed it? What is it's sleep schedule like? I mean when does it get up and when does it go to bed? Is this Throwing up gentle, with the bird depositing the matter or is this violent enough to get some of its feathers wet from it?

[jennynomi]

we have two cars at home a mini van and a truck.. he doesn't ride car that often I just sometimes (kinda rarely) take her outside for a ride... and when he's outside he is usually on my shoulder. We usually go to a market. I think we went out like 5 times? when he rode a mini van he didn't do anything it was totally fine but when he rode the truck he threw up...

I give him bonanza parakeet seeds and some fruits and vegetable I couldn't buy the conure one so next time visit to pet store I'm going to buy conure food and I put the food outside whenever he can eat or drink.. and sleep schedule is like 9 to 12 I put him inside the cage to sleep. I don't know when he wakes up he's always up when I wake up. It doesn't throw up violently just little splash.. He bobs his head and shakes it..

[jennynomi]

If your bird is throwing up as opposed to regurgitating then it is very serious, indeed.
First, what do you mean by riding truck and how often does this occur? Also you mention him riding in other cars, how many are you speaking of ? At 3 months of age I can't think of any good reason for him to be in a car except to go to the bird doctor, So if he/ she is out in cars very much May I inquire as to why and where does he go?
May I ask what you are feeding this bird and when do you feed it? What is it's sleep schedule like? I mean when does it get up and when does it go to bed? Is this Throwing up gentle, with the bird depositing the matter or is this violent enough to get some of its feathers wet from it?

we have two cars at home a mini van and a truck.. he doesn't ride car that often I just sometimes (kinda rarely) take her outside for a ride... and when he's outside he is usually on my shoulder. We usually go to a market. I think we went out like 5 times? when he rode a mini van he didn't do anything it was totally fine but when he rode the truck he threw up...

I give him bonanza parakeet seeds and some fruits and vegetable I couldn't buy the conure one so next time visit to pet store I'm going to buy conure food and I put the food outside whenever he can eat or drink.. and sleep schedule is like 9 to 12 I put him inside the cage to sleep. I don't know when he wakes up he's always up when I wake up. It doesn't throw up violently just little splash.. He bobs his head and shakes it..

[Wolf]

OK !
First off, I am assuming from your posts that you are young and that you live at home with your parents. Second, I try to be gentle, but I sometimes speak too bluntly for some people, although I mean them no disrespect. Third, the reason that I am here and try to answer questions is because of the birds and only the birds, they need all the help that they can get. Fourth and lastly, Feel free at anytime to tell me if you disagree or even if you feel that I am too blunt or just totally wrong. I don't get offended and will still always try my best to give you the right answers.
With that out of the way I feel like we can continue on with equal footing.
You are at present not helping yourself or your bird to having a good relationship or life together. The only possible explanation for this that I can think of is that you simply don't yet have the knowledge or experience that you need, so I will begin there, after we finish with your current problem.
So based on what you have said , I am thinking that this truck is not operating correctly and that its problem, at least as it may be affecting your bird, is either in its fuel system or in its exhaust system causing it to give of fumes that are making your bird deathly ill and if you continue to take him out in this truck your bird will die soon. The truck needs repair before your bird can be allowed back in it. Also try to get your bird a check up as soon as possible with an avian vet, not a regular vet , an avian vet. The damage to your birds respiratory system could be quite severe as they are much more sensitive to such things than we are and it may take weeks to fully realize how much damage has occurred to him.
In addition to fumes from cars and trucks there are also many things in your home that could injure or kill your little friend that you should be aware of, so I am providing you with a link that on its second page contains a list of things, plant, woods, foods and household items that are good for or are toxic to your bird. Please take the time to read it, it is very important to the well being of your bird.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12521

Let us now look at your little friends diet and for this I am providing a list of food as recommended by The World Parrot Trust for this species of parrot.

Diet:
Fruits such as: apple, pear, banana, cactus fruits, pomegranate, forming about 30 percent of diet; vegetables such as: carrot, celery, green beans and peas in the pod; fresh corn; green leaves such as: Swiss chard, lettuce, sowthistle, dandelion, chickweed; spray millet; small seed mix such as: canary, millet and smaller amounts of oats, buckwheat and safflower; soaked and sprouted sunflower seed; cooked beans and pulses and boiled maize; limited cubed hard cheese; complete pellet
Use this list as a basic guideline on what your bird needs as there is room for a lot of variables and as long as you get the percentage of the food types right and use only bird safe foods from the list in the link you will do fine with his food. Your bird needs to be fed breakfast shortly after sunrise, right now that is between 6 and 7 am. My birds get their breakfast, I use a cooked mix of white beans whole grains, mixed vegetables and fruits. I make this once a week and freeze half of it for the second half of the week, when I serve it I usually add a couple of fresh raw vegetables such as squash and carrot and peas and some chili powder or basil and one fresh raw fruit. I like to give them some fresh greens such as kale and dandelion and some fruit, it depends on what I have right now I have blue berries, to nibble on through the rest of the day. Then for dinner I give them their seed mix and remove it after they go to sleep. In your case a couple of teaspoons of your seed mix should be plenty.
Your bird needs to get the light from both dawn and dusk in order to keep its endocrine system tuned to the correct time of the year and should get up and go to bed with the sun.
You mentioned that when you take your bird out to the market that you have him on your shoulder so I am really hoping that you are using an aviator harness on him when you do this be cause if you are not you are taking a big chance of losing your bird. If your bird is to be any place outside he should either be in a cage or wearing an aviator harness or you are going to lose him. That being said I really see no reason for him to go anywhere at his age except to see the vet. Your bird needs to have at least one or two hours each day one on one interaction with you and at least four hours of out of cage time each day to hang out with you, wander about exploring, fly or just play with his toys. Right now the majority of your time should be spent with bonding activities with him and then after a couple of months of bonding and getting to know each other you can begin to start training him.

[jennynomi]

OK !
First off, I am assuming from your posts that you are young and that you live at home with your parents. Second, I try to be gentle, but I sometimes speak too bluntly for some people, although I mean them no disrespect. Third, the reason that I am here and try to answer questions is because of the birds and only the birds, they need all the help that they can get. Fourth and lastly, Feel free at anytime to tell me if you disagree or even if you feel that I am too blunt or just totally wrong. I don't get offended and will still always try my best to give you the right answers.
With that out of the way I feel like we can continue on with equal footing.
You are at present not helping yourself or your bird to having a good relationship or life together. The only possible explanation for this that I can think of is that you simply don't yet have the knowledge or experience that you need, so I will begin there, after we finish with your current problem.
So based on what you have said , I am thinking that this truck is not operating correctly and that its problem, at least as it may be affecting your bird, is either in its fuel system or in its exhaust system causing it to give of fumes that are making your bird deathly ill and if you continue to take him out in this truck your bird will die soon. The truck needs repair before your bird can be allowed back in it. Also try to get your bird a check up as soon as possible with an avian vet, not a regular vet , an avian vet. The damage to your birds respiratory system could be quite severe as they are much more sensitive to such things than we are and it may take weeks to fully realize how much damage has occurred to him.
In addition to fumes from cars and trucks there are also many things in your home that could injure or kill your little friend that you should be aware of, so I am providing you with a link that on its second page contains a list of things, plant, woods, foods and household items that are good for or are toxic to your bird. Please take the time to read it, it is very important to the well being of your bird.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12521

Let us now look at your little friends diet and for this I am providing a list of food as recommended by The World Parrot Trust for this species of parrot.

Diet:
Fruits such as: apple, pear, banana, cactus fruits, pomegranate, forming about 30 percent of diet; vegetables such as: carrot, celery, green beans and peas in the pod; fresh corn; green leaves such as: Swiss chard, lettuce, sowthistle, dandelion, chickweed; spray millet; small seed mix such as: canary, millet and smaller amounts of oats, buckwheat and safflower; soaked and sprouted sunflower seed; cooked beans and pulses and boiled maize; limited cubed hard cheese; complete pellet
Use this list as a basic guideline on what your bird needs as there is room for a lot of variables and as long as you get the percentage of the food types right and use only bird safe foods from the list in the link you will do fine with his food. Your bird needs to be fed breakfast shortly after sunrise, right now that is between 6 and 7 am. My birds get their breakfast, I use a cooked mix of white beans whole grains, mixed vegetables and fruits. I make this once a week and freeze half of it for the second half of the week, when I serve it I usually add a couple of fresh raw vegetables such as squash and carrot and peas and some chili powder or basil and one fresh raw fruit. I like to give them some fresh greens such as kale and dandelion and some fruit, it depends on what I have right now I have blue berries, to nibble on through the rest of the day. Then for dinner I give them their seed mix and remove it after they go to sleep. In your case a couple of teaspoons of your seed mix should be plenty.
Your bird needs to get the light from both dawn and dusk in order to keep its endocrine system tuned to the correct time of the year and should get up and go to bed with the sun.
You mentioned that when you take your bird out to the market that you have him on your shoulder so I am really hoping that you are using an aviator harness on him when you do this be cause if you are not you are taking a big chance of losing your bird. If your bird is to be any place outside he should either be in a cage or wearing an aviator harness or you are going to lose him. That being said I really see no reason for him to go anywhere at his age except to see the vet. Your bird needs to have at least one or two hours each day one on one interaction with you and at least four hours of out of cage time each day to hang out with you, wander about exploring, fly or just play with his toys. Right now the majority of your time should be spent with bonding activities with him and then after a couple of months of bonding and getting to know each other you can begin to start training him.

No it's okay you actually helped me a lot.. I never thought about the car fume... ac was on... I didn't know that will cause the problem..
And my bird has been currently wing cut.. the previous owner did it and now I'm waiting till they grow back... so for now it's okay.. but when I go far away I was put the harness on
I always let my bird outside and play I only put him in when it's time to go to sleep. You are right I am a student and I'm on a break right now so I always spend time with my bird

[Wolf]

Please don't make the mistake of thinking that just because your bird is clipped that it is safe for him to be outside without an aviator harness or being in a cage, because it simply is not true. More birds have been lost and killed or lost and never recovered due to this thought than have been lost in any other way.
All it takes is for one good scare and your bird gets a surge af adrenalin and suddenly he is flapping his wings hard enough to take to the air and you have just lost your bird. Or the sudden gust of wind out of nowhere od your bird loses his balance, spreads his wings to steady himself and is caught up in the gust and bird gone.
Believe me this occurs a lot, as I said it is the number one reason that people lose their birds.
When a birds wings are clipped it is done in such a manner that it keeps them from gaining any altitude under calm condition such as inside of your house, but there are enough flight feathers left so that the bird can fly or glide for short distances and land safely if it should lose its balance and fall. This means that your bird can fly if it can flap hard enough which it can if it gets scared and panics and it can still glide and so it can ride the wind currents quite easily and it doesn't take a strong gust of wind to leave you on the ground watching your friend fly away and you knowing that this may be the last time you will ever see him or see him alive if you do find him. It really is not a feeling that you want to experience and I know this from personal experience.
Please, for the safety of your bird place him in a cage or make sure he is wearing an aviator harness when he goes outside with you.

[Harpmaker]

Hello jennynomi!

I just want to add that while Wolf is absolutely correct about unharnessed/uncaged birds being lost, you are doing well to let your bird get some natural sunlight unfiltered by windows. Windows block the UV frequencies that birds need for good health. So continue to take your conure outside, just use a carrier until he/she accepts a harness. There are other harnesses than the Aviator brand, but they are heavier, harder to adjust, and not worth the money.

Good luck!