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Re: My luck is not so good

Postby Victor » Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:57 pm

Nigel took his meds. Well and is doing well. He still can't walk I think the bandages way him down too much. He is also missing two of his talons on one foot. The X-ray also showed that he broke that leg at some point. I just hope this is the last time he has to do this. Por guy has seen more pain then I have. But he can still push him self around to eat. And I offer him water every time I think about it. Witch is to often. As he only drinks. Ones every three to four times I offer. He's just mad about not being on my shoulder. So I'll let you know how things look next week. When we see the vet.
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Re: My luck is not so good

Postby Wolf » Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:20 pm

I would at least call the vet and let him know that the bird is unable to walk and why you think that he can't. It is not good that he can't walk and they may be able to help. It could be that the bandages are too tight and that could cut of blood supply to places that it should not. This needs to be looked into for the birds benefit.
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Re: My luck is not so good

Postby Victor » Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:57 pm

They know. And they blame the leg. Like I do and want me to look for things like not eating or rubbing his belly. As that can cause damage. But they admit the work is not that great. They had to add to it to make it stronger. As he don't like it. Gee I wonder why? But all this added strength also adds wait. And it's all over his bad leg. Witch is little more then a crutch.
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Re: My luck is not so good

Postby Wolf » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:36 pm

Is this the same vet that you went to with Shuggie? Nothing that I have seen says where you are but with it being 3 hours to /Eugene, I am thinking that you live in Oregon, is that right? Also you never got back to us with the information as to what he died from, can you remember what it was?
I am not liking much about this vet so far, If they knew that the job they did on Nigel was not good, I just don't understand why they didn't fix it right then instead of this second or third rate job. I mean no disrespect, but I am very particular about the care that my animals get. They charge rates so high that it must be for the best care possible and so that is what I expect, the best possible care. I don't mind paying for it as long as that is what I receive. I am just concerned for Nigel, and believe it when I say that I can complain enough for both of us If I don't think that the vet is giving him adequate care.
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Re: My luck is not so good

Postby Victor » Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:07 am

I hear you! And I can't say I disagree. It's not the same vet. This one is local. I did not think Nigel was strong a nuff for the drive. Cocktails are strong little birds. But he was so bad with shock. And I do not care much for nether of em. When it comes to Shuggie the one fact that mattered was he was fat. And nutrition was not right the rest I found to be guess work. So I ignored it. Maybe this was not the right thing to do. But I don't like to let guess work confuse the facts. Getting back to Nigel. The wing seems to be in the right place. And he can eat and drink. I do think it's much to heavy. And one way or another... Yea know I just got a idea. And the vet did say I could tweak it for his comfort. And am not messing with the wing am just going to give him more leg room. And lighten the thing at the same time.

He is still top heavy. But I gave him more leg room and put in some reptile carpet. With something to grip he is trying to stand.
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Re: My luck is not so good

Postby Pajarita » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:42 am

Wait a minute. How is his wing bandaged? When a wing breaks (or is damaged in any way, even just soft tissue damage), the right way of bandaging/splinting it is with what is called an 8 bandage. The '8' comes from the way the bandage is put on, making a figure 8 with it and it goes on a folded wing and around the body. Wings are never splint open because, as these fractures are very tricky (the bones are difficult to align), if you did it wrong (and, if you do it with the wing open, it will be wrong), the bird will end up with a permanently half-open wing which would make it real difficult for him to move around BUT, if you do it in an 8 you not only have a much better chance of getting it right, but even if you don't, the wing would be permanently folded and would not impede the bird's movement at all. These bandages are not really bulky or heavy and are quite comfortable to the bird because the wing is in a naturally folded position and the bandage itself is around the body (it simply immobilizes the wing against the body) so the bird can stand, climb, bend over and move around in a completely natural way.
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Re: My luck is not so good

Postby Wolf » Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:14 pm

Can you post some pictures for us to see?
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Re: My luck is not so good

Postby Pajarita » Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:33 pm

This is a picture from the side and it also shows (the little bone drawing on top) how the wing should be folded so the bones align well.

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And this is a picture from the top where it shows how the bandage, after been put on an 8 shape around the wing, goes wrapped around the body and under the other wing for stability and comfort.

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Re: My luck is not so good

Postby Wolf » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:51 pm

Thank you, Pajarita, for the pictures, you did a wonderful job. Thing is, and it is my bad, I was hopeing Victor would post some pictures so we could see what was done to his bird. I needed to be specific, but I really glad I wasn't as those are great pics.
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Re: My luck is not so good

Postby Victor » Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:33 pm

I know what your looking for wolf. I just can't get any good pics with my phone. And I don't now how to post on this site. I also have not tried yet. I do have a pic of the X-ray in my email. I'll I see is white around the area. The bones look fine to me. Not broken or anything. Am more concerned with the round white mass. But he has bin hormonal. He is on a light cycle now. He has only bin on it for a month or so. I'm hopping he will calm down in time.

Oh and the wing is folded and tied to him. I would not of allowed it to be cast out. That would be uncomfortable for him if nothing els.
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