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Solar schedule and diet plan help!

Postby PineappleWine » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:46 pm

Hello! About a month ago I got a Pineapple Green Cheek Conure. For some reason, despite all my research, id never heard about a solar schedule. She's about 8 1/2 months old. How important is it? I have a huge window across from her cage, but I don't know if it blocks uv rays.
Another thing I was wondering, is her food schedule. Ive totally messed up! I used to leave two bowls in her cage, one with ZuPreems pellets and the other with a seed mix. She didn't really eat any veggies or fruits so I stopped giving her them. Now she only eats the seeds and im very worried about her health! I would dearly appreciate it if someone could explain the solar thing, and then help me with her diet. Im wanting to give her a fruit and veggie blended mix in the morning, then in the afternoon some seeds (ill be bonding with her then) and then some pellets. Is this a good idea? Thanks so much!
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Re: Solar schedule and diet plan help!

Postby Wolf » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:06 pm

Discussions about lighting and diet can both get rather lengthy, so I will start with the short version and we'll see if that does it or not.
Lighting is very important for a bird as it controls its biological or internal clock which in turn regulates most of the birds internal functions and is one of the primary triggers for signaling the start of breeding season and its ending. The UV light from the sun has various functions including the conversion of vitamin D precursers into vitamin D-3 which is needed for proper calcium absorption. Modern glass and some of the screens on windows block these UV wavelengths. Also a parrot that is deprived of the proper UV light is effectively visually impaired as although UV wavelengths are invisible to us a parrot sees into the UV spectrum. Next to a parrot that gets UV light we are nearly totally colorblind. A solar light schedule is very basically the exact same light schedule as wild birds have. They are outside so they are exposed to the first hints of light in the morning sky right on through the twilight of dawn and then wake up at sunrise. They have the sunlight all day long and then go to eat and drink at dusk which is also a twilight period and then they go to sleep at full dark. It is the two twilight periods together that are responsible for keeping the biological clock tuned properly and it is accurate to about 15 minutes.
That is basically what a solar light schedule is and what it is all about. Most of the rest of what we know is the effects of not getting enough of this light schedule for their body to function correctly.
Diet is equally important to a bird, and is also one of the primary triggers for starting the reproductive cycle in our birds. Although the veterinary books only devote a single chapter or two to this area of avian husbandry, entire books have been written on the topic of avian nutrition and at best these are all incomplete. This is because except for the past 20 to 25 years there have been no studies on this subject, especially in regards to parrots despite the fact that there are over 350 different species of parrots all over the world living in most of the temperature zones from temperate to tropical and in rain forests to deserts. Each of these species with their own diets that are unique to each of them. There was even a native parrot to the United States that ranged from the Gulf coast to the Great Lakes, until we hunted it to extinction by the early 20th century.
The first actual studies on avian nutrition were done on chickens, for the obvious reasons of increased growth rates and egg production. The first pelleted diets for parrots were based on these studies. I don't know the actual dates but the next studies were done by Drs, Harrison, the same as manufacture pellets for parrots. These were better although, they were also flawed in that they were all short term studies of a year or less and they only used cockatiels for this set of studies. This means that the current feeds are based on either chickens or cockatiels. We truly have a very long ways to go in this area of parrot husbandry.
It is impossible for us to duplicate our parrots natural diet as they eat such a wide variety of foods and this also changes in accordance with the seasons. Also parrots that are native to the desert regions of Australia do not eat the same diet as the parrots that are native to the African Congo or the parrots who live in the rainforests of South America.
We know that parrots eat a range of foods that are all very high in moisture content and that the derive a fair amount of their bodily moisture from their foods. We know that they eat and drink primarily in the mornings and again in the evenings. We know that the eat a variety of seeds, fruits and vegetation, including leafy matter and flowers and that some even consume a limited amount of insects.
All this translates into a lot of controversity to wade though when we as parrot owners try to find out what and how to feed our friends. Today despite the claims of some feed manufacturers there is no complete diet available to feed our birds.
We need to feed as large of a variety of fruits, vegetables and leafy greens as we can get them to eat. Seeds are good for our parrots, just not in the manner that they usually get them. Seeds can be fed all year long as long as they are fed in limited amounts. We have found that we can feed them whole grains as they are lower in fat and protein while still providing the bird with all of the nutrients found in seeds and are in fact supply some nutrients not found in the seeds.
Pellets are a source of much controversity in the parrot world. Vets recommend them, even though they know that they are not all that good, because they have learned that many parrot owners would not give their bird enough of a variety in their diets for the bird to get the nutrition that it needs. This is partially the parrots fault as the bird will pick out its favorite foods and leave the rest. Kind of like a kid in a candy store. Pellets are extremely dry, requiring the bird to drink more water than normal and still must pull moisture from surrounding tissues in order to digest the pellets. Many pellets are made with soy and soy products as a main ingredient and many of our parrots have an allergic reaction to soy. Likewise many of the pellets contain a large amount of sugar which the birds can not digest and this can cause diabetes in them. This does not even address the amount of dyes in their food that have been proven to cause cancer in humans, nor the preservatives and artificial vitamins and minerals to which our birds are sensitive to.
For these reasons I do not use pellets as a part of my birds diets. When my birds get up in the mornings I offer them a fresh raw vegetable, a leafy green and a fruit. About an hour later I feed them their breakfast consisting of cooked whole grains(40%), cooked mixed vegetables( 40%) and cooked white beans and lentils ( 20%). They get enough of all of these foods for all day long and then they get a good quality seed mix for dinner which is then removed when the bird goes to sleep for the night.
I hope that this will help you with your bird, let me know if you need further information.
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Re: Solar schedule and diet plan help!

Postby PineappleWine » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:45 pm

Thank you, now I have an idea of what to feed my bird! The solar thing seems a little harder to do though. If my window doesn't let the UV rays through, what can I do? Can I open the window and set her near it at the beginning and end of the day? Can I leave the window open, and will she get enough rays?
Thanks, Wolf, sorry I ask so many questions! I just want her to be ok!

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Re: Solar schedule and diet plan help!

Postby Wolf » Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:56 pm

I really can't answer about your window until I know if it has screens on it. And then you would need to look closely at the screening and tell me if the screen is fiber or metal. Metal screens are shiny and look silvery and fiber ones are usually a dark color.
Don't worry about your questions, that is why we are here to help you to find the right answers. We want you and your bird to have the very best life together that is possible.
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Re: Solar schedule and diet plan help!

Postby PineappleWine » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:03 am

Oh, yes, it has a dark brown screen. I don't think its metal. its not super thick, but its still medium.
And thanks again!
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Re: Solar schedule and diet plan help!

Postby Wolf » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:25 am

OK, it is usually the newer screens that block the UV light and they are fiber and not metal. So putting her by the window will probably not give her any UV light, but still may be a good idea. For the bird it probably would not hurt as it does provide fresher air and it allows her to look out. I don't know where you live so I don't know about security issues that you may need to consider. If the window is where other people passing by would be able to see that you have a bird then you might want to have her cage near the window but where passers by can't see it, especially if it is a ground floor. But in any case you don't want to keep moving the cage, you want to put it in one place and leave it there. Being near the window would give her the benefit of the twilight periods of dawn and dusk as long as there are no artificial lights shining in the window because she still needs it dark to get a proper nights sleep. As for UV light for her bodily functions you can probably get enough by using a small travel cage to take her outside each day for 20 minutes. She doesn't nee direct sunshine as that could get her too hot but a nice shady spot where you can sit with her for the 20 minutes would be great. if that is not workable there are still options that you can use such as full spectrum lights. Allow me to come back for information on this type of lighting, as it is late and past my bed time.
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Re: Solar schedule and diet plan help!

Postby liz » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:03 am

My birdies were in a sun room. It let in very bright sunshine. Even then I put in a UV light which did not add much to the brightness but did give the birds what they needed.
I saw the effects in Rambo my pedestrian. He grew flight feathers for the first time in 20+ years.
He is now learning to fly even though it is only about a foot off the floor.
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Re: Solar schedule and diet plan help!

Postby PineappleWine » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:58 am

Ok, so UV lights can give her the rays? That's good! Can I buy them at a local Walmart or stores like that? Also, are they bulbs? I think ill put a lamp next to the cage with a UV bulb if so. Is that ok? Thanks a bunch!
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Re: Solar schedule and diet plan help!

Postby Wolf » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:01 pm

No, you won't find the right bulbs or fluorescent tubes at Wal Mart or such stores like that.
Now, this is one that I really want you to slow down, take your time, and do some serious research on. Full spectrum bulbs can seriously injure, blind and kill your bird. So before you go jumping on the band wagon you really need to understand what you are doing first. UV light is without a doubt beneficial to your parrot, but it is also the part of the light spectrum that causes sunburn, so you know that too much exposure is not only painful but also dangerous and this holds true for our birds as well. Technology is great in many ways and we can harness the power of sunlight in a bulb or tube. Parrots are not the only animal that benefits greatly from this technology, reptiles also need full spectrum lighting and this is where the problem lies. Our first full spectrum bulbs were designed for reptiles and the can tolerate a stronger dose of this light. This means that you have to make absolutely certain that you get the right bulb, as the ones made for reptiles can blind, or kill your bird, very painfully I must say.
Not too long ago, while I was doing some research on full spectrum lighting I came across a story complete with picture of a bird that was severely burned by the use of one of the full spectrum bulbs that was designed for reptiles and marketed as being safe for birds. In less than an hour this bird was burned to the bone in several places on its body as it apparently kept trying to get away from the light. It cost the owner several thousands of dollars and many months of pain killers and antibiotics and medical care round the clock to save the birds life. I also ran across a couple of articles where birds were blinded after just a short exposure to full spectrum lighting that was once again made for reptiles and marketed as being safe for birds. The companies that made these bulbs are still in business and still selling full spectrum bulbs that are designed for reptiles and repackaging them as bird safe bulbs.
I feel that it is absolutely mandatory for you to know these things in order to best protect your bird from unscrupulous manufacturers that only care about money and not your birds well being. It is important to know the dangers as well as the benefits before you purchase a product for your bird.
You can get full spectrum lighting as tubes and as bulbs and if you get the right bulbs and use them correctly then they are safe, but you can't just go out and buy a bulb that claims to be safe for your bird. You have to look at the fine print and in some cases you must call the manufacturer to get the bulbs specifications. I do have a bulb and it is in a lamp, but I really recommend that the bulb be used in an overhead light fixture such as a ceiling light fixture controlled by a wall switch. The specifications for the bulb or tube are as follows. It must have a CRI of 94+, the K Temp must be 5000 to 5500 and the UV rating of 2.
If you decide to use full spectrum lights for your birds we will be happy to help you to find the right bulb or tube on line which is where we found ours. If you can make it work then I recommend that you use natural sunlight for your bird. I use both natural lighting as much as possible and use the full spectrum the remainder of the time.
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Re: Solar schedule and diet plan help!

Postby PineappleWine » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:23 pm

Ok, thanks! I think id prefer natural sunlight over the bulbs. 20 minutes every morning and night? Will that do? And since I don't want her getting hurt, ill put her in a smaller cage that has bars so the sun can filter through. Is this ok? Thanks for the specifics too, just in case!
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