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Re: input asap please

Postby Pajarita » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:03 pm

Actually, the water content of plant material is 85 to 95%. I don't use dehydrated anything for my birds but I do use naturally dried fruits like figs, dates, raisins, apples, tomatoes, etc. (and untreated with sulfites, of course). The water content of these fruits after drying varies but it's about 20 to 30% and they are either mixed with the gloop (which is quite moist) or in their birdy bread (which is also very moist).

Now, vegetable broth is not really very nutritious at all. See this from Livestrong:

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Vitamin Content

Although vegetable broth is made from vegetables, the end result isn't very high in vitamins. Each cup does provide you with 10 percent of the DV for vitamin A, which you need for healthy vision and immune function. Opting for another type of broth won't increase your vitamin intake much, either. Beef broth isn't particularly high in any vitamins, but a cup of chicken broth will help you boost your vitamin C intake with 27 percent of the DV. Vitamin C helps prevent cell damage from free radicals and is essential for forming collagen.
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The other thing is kale. Now, kale is highly nutritious BUT it also has a very high content of sorbitol, an indigestible type of sugar that creates an undesirable reaction in the digestive tract (I can't eat it, I get 3 straight days of diarrhea if I do) so, although I don't know (I don't think anybody does as there are no studies) if it affects birds the same way, I play it safe and don't feed it to mine very often. But cooked is better than raw and blue kale is better than green so mine get a bit of the latter in their gloop and the dino one raw once every two weeks.
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Re: input asap please

Postby Wolf » Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:09 pm

Well slap me silly for being taken in by that. ( I meant that as a funny), Thanks for the new info as I was not aware of this, I had always been taught otherwise.
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Re: input asap please

Postby Kakariki » Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:20 pm

I did mean the dehydrated only for the budgies, thinking it would be better than none at all, and having seen it for sale in the pet store. the bits I have offered them of fresh I mince or grate finely (apple, carrot etc.) They MAY pick at it, it is hard to tell. The larger birds eat larger chunks. The kak's and IRN are easy, they eat some of everything offered. Jasper :gcc: was young when I got him and eats a good variety as well. Crayola :sun: I will have had for one year the middle of Oct and has come a long way, in the beginning she would run from my shoulder to the back of my head when I offered even a grape or piece of apple, she seemed suspicious or even frightened of every new thing at first, now she is a very good eater, but still won't touch carrot, and just recently has been coaxed into tasting broccoli. Skippy being the newest member is still Quite a picky eater but has come along a bit in baby steps. He at least eats peas and corn, a wee bit of apple, grape or banana. This week I bought a pomegranate and got him to eat some of it. Other than peas he seems to hate anything green, and won't touch a carrot either, But as with Crayola, I will continue encouraging. I am glad I have seen him picking at his gloop on his own now that he has been eating it from my fingers for a while.
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Re: input asap please

Postby Pajarita » Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:54 am

My budgies eat all the veggies in the gloop except for the green beans which they ALWAYS leave behind so, everyday, they eat corn, peas, carrots, hominy, butternut squash, broccoli, blue kale, artichoke hearts and sweet potatoes. These added to the different leafy greens they consume in large quantities (the love love love leafy greens!) and the few fruits they do eat (mostly dried ones mixed in the gloop), round up a good diet for them. Have you tried feeding them gloop? It's a GREAT solution for picky eaters!
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Re: input asap please

Postby Kakariki » Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:54 pm

Yes I do offer the gloop to the budgies and the veg I put in is minced or finely grated . I suppose they could be picking at it but never looks like any is gone. I put it in their cage anyway
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Re: input asap please

Postby Pajarita » Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:37 am

Do you leave any protein food in there? Because you can't. If you take away whatever is leftover from their dinner (high protein) after they go to sleep and, early in the morning serve the gloop on the bottom of the cage (they are ground foragers) mixed with a bit of seeds (only at the beginning, you eliminate the seeds once they start eating it), they'll start eating it.
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