Eggs....Shells..

[seagoatdeb]

The first article is about parrots in general which means the entire order of psittaciformes in which there is one species that is classified as omnivore (the kea). There is a second one on which the jury is still out, the vassa, (the rest is classified as herbivores) but, of these two, the only one that is kept in captivity is the Vassa which does require a special diet (they are also vastly different in looks and behaviors from other species). It doesn't mention anything about parrots in the wild eating eggs.

The second article was written by a young woman whose only claim to scientific training is having worked as a vet technician (they don't study or even practice on birds - I know because I was going to do the two year course but decided not to as they don't 'do' birds) for three years - aside from that, she owned pet stores.

But, like I said, different people have different opinions... I go by nature and, in the wild -at least, as far as we know- parrots don't eat eggs.

There have been reports of feral colonies of lorikeets (and later scaly breasted and toos) in England eating meat from bird feeders but the scientific consensus seems to be (so far) that this is a learned aberrant behavior and that is not good for them.

See these links: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -home.html

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-13/m ... dy/6764514

Eggs are fine, and Parrots can digest them as well as worms and insects. if you go by nature, when do birds eat cooked grains in the wild?

[Toggsy]

Well, then I suggest you do a bit more in-depth research about parrots natural diets.

I find that comment quite offensive as was your comment in my intro thread bearing in mind you've not seen my aviary set up, how can you assume what knowledge I do or don't have in regards to care of my birds you've never met me personally.
So I ask You why do you feel the need to shoot me down along with others (ive read other post on other threads)
I've only been on the forum a short while and you've shot me down on more than one occasion hardly a warm welcome is it I'm now very aprahensive about posting or replying to future threads

Sorry for disrupting the thread but it's been bugging me and it had to be said

[seagoatdeb]

Well, then I suggest you do a bit more in-depth research about parrots natural diets.

I find that comment quite offensive as was your comment in my intro thread bearing in mind you've not seen my aviary set up, how can you assume what knowledge I do or don't have in regards to care of my birds you've never met me personally.
So I ask You why do you feel the need to shoot me down along with others (ive read other post on other threads)
I've only been on the forum a short while and you've shot me down on more than one occasion hardly a warm welcome is it I'm now very aprahensive about posting or replying to future threads

Sorry for disrupting the thread but it's been bugging me and it had to be said

Dont be sorry for disrupting the thread, her coment was uncalled for and she has also shot down many of my comments too. It does need to be said.

[Toggsy]

Well, then I suggest you do a bit more in-depth research about parrots natural diets.

I find that comment quite offensive as was your comment in my intro thread bearing in mind you've not seen my aviary set up, how can you assume what knowledge I do or don't have in regards to care of my birds you've never met me personally.
So I ask You why do you feel the need to shoot me down along with others (ive read other post on other threads)
I've only been on the forum a short while and you've shot me down on more than one occasion hardly a warm welcome is it I'm now very aprahensive about posting or replying to future threads

Sorry for disrupting the thread but it's been bugging me and it had to be said

Dont be sorry for disrupting the thread, her coment was uncalled for and she has also shot down many of my comments too. It does need to be said.

I had noticed the why did you get a parrot thread

[Wolf]

Are you reading this, Pajarita? I don't mean to be offensive, or unfair and I know that you tend to be a bit brusque at times, but when you start seeing things like this it should let you know that you are needing to approach things differently and with a little more consideration for the party making the post. You can be direct, honest as well as to the point while still remaining considerate of others. I know that it is not your normal approach, but I know that you can do this because I have seen you do it and do it well.

Seagoatdeb, when there is an offence it does indeed need to brought out and discussed. I personally would prefer to use the PM function for this but I am just as comfortable with doing it on the open forum. Some people especially new ones don't know who to PM to let anyone know that they have an issue, so there will be some of this on the forum and I am still new enough at this moderation thing that some people might think that I will not be fair, which I hope that I have shown that is not the case. The one party that if you have a complaint about that should be discussed on the open forum is myself as you the members of this forum are the ones that I depend most upon to keep me on the right track.

[seagoatdeb]

Are you reading this, Pajarita? I don't mean to be offensive, or unfair and I know that you tend to be a bit brusque at times, but when you start seeing things like this it should let you know that you are needing to approach things differently and with a little more consideration for the party making the post. You can be direct, honest as well as to the point while still remaining considerate of others. I know that it is not your normal approach, but I know that you can do this because I have seen you do it and do it well.

Seagoatdeb, when there is an offence it does indeed need to brought out and discussed. I personally would prefer to use the PM function for this but I am just as comfortable with doing it on the open forum. Some people especially new ones don't know who to PM to let anyone know that they have an issue, so there will be some of this on the forum and I am still new enough at this moderation thing that some people might think that I will not be fair, which I hope that I have shown that is not the case. The one party that if you have a complaint about that should be discussed on the open forum is myself as you the members of this forum are the ones that I depend most upon to keep me on the right track.

Wolf I have always seen you to be fair.

[Toggsy]

Maybe a list of moderators might be an idea being new here I had no idea who to contact so it was easier to do it publically in the open forum and let the correct people deal with it.
I've seen this kind of thing before in other forums where things quickly get out of hand I don't want to fall out with any one on here but if someone is rude, sarcastic or offensive with remarks I will make point of pointing it out.

[Wolf]

The list of moderators is short as I am the only one and you did fine with how you handled it. I have not gone out of my way to advertise myself as moderator as I really want to post just the same as any regular member can. I don't want my normal posts to be looked at as any different than yours or for anyone to not disagree with me due to the moderator thing.
Although I would have let you know who I was and that I would address the problem, I may have been a little more discreet about it had it not been that there were a few other threads that were degenerating into nothing but arguments and I had to address those which I tried to do as a regular member and when you posted your problem I thought it best to act in the capacity of moderator here.
I try to let people police themselves and work out their difficulties where possible but if you have a problem that you need help with let me know and I will do what I can to correct it. Because I am the only moderator if you have a problem with me do not be bashful and although you can PM me I would prefer to deal with complaints concerning myself on open forum as I want everyone to know that regardless of the complaint or who is involved that I will be fair about it.
You did fine and I thank you for speaking up.

[liz]

just like a bird bit you for no reason you have to let it ride.
I believe pajarita's life runs at such high speed that she does not take time to choose her words. when I get run over and stepped on I just pick myself up and try it again. even when info gets slung at me I take it into consideration.
out back to eggs and shells my chick chick would not eat oyster shells. I started washing the shells then toastilevel.ng them in a little olive oil. she would eat them. with her laying at least one a day I was worried about her calcium level.

[Wolf]

I try to learn enough about the foods that I provide for my birds to balance out these different vitamins and minerals, not an easy task for me. Birds need calcium for many different reasons and some of them need more than others and then of course there are the females that require a little extra from time to time. The biggest problem is that their ability to use some of the things such as calcium is dependent on their having adequate amounts of other vitamins and minerals. In the case of calcium it requires vitamin D=3 and, I believe, magnesium.
I hate supplements as it is easy to overdo them, but if you are going to supplement the calcium try to find one that is balanced for birds that contains both magnesium and vitamin D-3. The other way and the way that I prefer is to find foods that are high in these specific vitamins and minerals and add them to the birds diet. Unfiltered sunlight is still the best way to ensure the right amount of D-3.

Thank you Liz, you are right and I responded inappropriately to Pajarita. It is not my intent to be harsh or unfair, I do want to call it to Pajarita's attention that she needs to try to be more aware of how her responses affect others, especially new members. With the arguments that are starting up both parties are wrong in not stopping before it degenerated as far as it did and I am beginning to thing that I am partly the cause of this. I have been discussing this with one of the parties concerned and will try to rectify my contribution to these unfortunate events, as well as to come up with a better way of addressing this type of issue.