Gloop II

[Leanna]

Chop can be as big or as small as you need it to be. I have just kept up with the lastest research and feed raw and fresh whenever possible. i am not against freezing. I also grow myself or buy local so mine is very fresh. This is the What I have been researching. I dont want to argue, I would just like to find out about new raw foods and new mixes for the highest nutrition. So I would appreciate comments from those feeding a raw diet.

http://www.omagdigital.com/article/The+ ... ticle.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZqbrZNImkk

[Leanna]

I have found through my research that fresh is better than frozen, unless the fresh is 3 days old, so it is important to source out fresh for ourselves. Also there is some nutrition lost when you freeze some things. Fresh is natural to birds and cooking is not. Our understanding of nutrition for humans as well as birds is lacking and birds did not eat frozen food in the wild, you cant go wrong with feeding as natural as possible. I only feed frozen if I cant find fresh raw fruits and vegetables. But I do not use cooking unless it has to be used, and vary sparyingly. The difference in nutrition between something cooked and something sprouted is immense.

[seagoatdeb]

I have gotten support from Jason Crean as well for raw diets.

[seagoatdeb]

Wolf, I will also get some good recipes and post them on the forum. I eat raw so it is easy for me to always have fresh raw foods, but I know where to get good raw food recipes that can be frozen too, for those that make raw only for their birds and need an easy way.

[Wolf]

Thanks! I think that it is an area that we should provide more information about and this has sadly been somewhat neglected, I think.

[seagoatdeb]

I have found through my research that fresh is better than frozen, unless the fresh is 3 days old, so it is important to source out fresh for ourselves. Also there is some nutrition lost when you freeze some things. Fresh is natural to birds and cooking is not. Our understanding of nutrition for humans as well as birds is lacking and birds did not eat frozen food in the wild, you cant go wrong with feeding as natural as possible. I only feed frozen if I cant find fresh raw fruits and vegetables. But I do not use cooking unless it has to be used, and vary sparyingly. The difference in nutrition between something cooked and something sprouted is immense.

I agree completely and also cooking kills the enzymes. any hotter that 110 F kills them all, so our birds are missing important things by cooking. I am close to 95 percent raw for my birds.

[seagoatdeb]

Thanks! I think that it is an area that we should provide more information about and this has sadly been somewhat neglected, I think.

I have made some posts on what birds need on a raw diet and some sample diets. An important thing is to vary the raw food served, birds should not, just like human, eat the very same diet everyday. Also any of it can be made in batches and frozen.

[liz]

Unless you pick your veggies from your own garden every morning, frozen veggies have more nutrition. Once picked, produce starts loosing it's value. Frozen veggies are frozen within an hour of picking. I don't think I would take frozen veggies, cook them and refreeze them. Most frozen veggies they will eat raw once thawed. They have to be at lease room temp.
I use zip lock bags to portion ahead of time for frozen to give them a variety. I also use zips for my grain so I don't have to think about portion or variety at that time of the morning.

Frozen fruit and veggies have more nutrition than produce that was picked, traveled and then put in the store.

[Navre]

The chop we make at the rescue is different every day. A lot depends on what we have, what needs to be used first, what I manage to grab before the bowl is filled up, etc.

I run the chop through a slicer on a food processor. It mixes things up well and gets juices on everything. It prevents some birds from just going through the bowl picking out their favorite things and tossing the rest.

I think the gloop I feed my own bird is about as mushy as the chop I give the rescue birds, but there is no fruit in the gloop, so I feel okay leaving it in the cage a bit longer. The chop at the rescue is pulled out after a few hours. Once they all get their chop, the cages get cleaned, the floors get done, and then the chop is pulled out. It usually takes about 3-4 hours.

[Pajarita]

Chop can be as big or as small as you need it to be. I have just kept up with the lastest research and feed raw and fresh whenever possible. i am not against freezing. I also grow myself or buy local so mine is very fresh. This is the What I have been researching. I dont want to argue, I would just like to find out about new raw foods and new mixes for the highest nutrition. So I would appreciate comments from those feeding a raw diet.

http://www.omagdigital.com/article/The+ ... ticle.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZqbrZNImkk

Very interesting! The first one, at least, I couldn't understand a word of the video because I suffer from a mild form of nerve-end deafness and voices over a device or with background noise (both problems in this case) are unintelligible to me.

My parrots do eat raw every day but, where I live, it's impossible to source local. You do get the occasional few items during the summer and part of the fall but none are organic so I would still have to rely on frozen as it provides better nutrition that fresh. I wish he would give some sort of recipe though... I mean, I feed everything he mentions but I don't see myself feeding my parrots raw rice, to tell you the truth! One thing I don't completely agree with is his comment about parrots eating a lot of cellulose because, if one goes by their anatomy, one would have to deduct that they don't eat that much of it.