Nutribird p15 pellets ok for conures?

[idlepirate]

I used to feed pellets from the vet to my greencheek in southafrica but I cant remember what it was called. That was excellent. Over here with my bluethroat conure, lorenzo, hes been on a high quality seed mix since I got him as ive been looking for the right pellets to switch to (my petstore here only does premium seeds, no pellets)
At the moment hes on this: http://www.amazinganimal.co.uk/amazonia ... 14222.html


The pack is now almost finished so I was about to buy a new pack when my local petshop owner mentioned hes finally getting in some pellets on friday.
I dont know much about the brand so i was hoping some of you could advice me if this will be good for lorenzo, if its compeltely healthy and the way to go.
The ones hes getting are nutribird p15 pellets, all info whats in them is here:
http://www.amazinganimal.co.uk/nutribir ... 14185.html

They look really big and chunky looking. Would these be ok to feed a conure, id say if a greencheek can eat them then he can too as hes very slightly bigger. Are these even popular? should i stick to the amazon seed mix?

Any help would be appreciated before i decide to buy it on friday:)

Thanks in advance

[entrancedbymyGCC]

I don't see anything particularly wrong with them, but I don't know the brand at all, it isn't one we get here, at least not commonly. It probably depends on the individual bird if the size will be OK or not -- Scooter seems only interested in trying pellets that are nearly seed-sized even though he could eat much bigger ones... anything much bigger just gets tossed out of the dish with a flourish. Scotty, on the other hand, seems to want to size up.

[idlepirate]

Thanks entranced I keep hearing about Harrisons organic, i think id possibly be able to order it online as I cant find it in any shops. Maybe thats my best option since everyone seems to use it in the states. at least to know its good and that conures like it too.
The nutripet ones are really worrying me on the size, esspecially if you say scooter throws out the big ones.
I could always convince the petstore to start ordering harrison instead if they can get ahold of it.
Really annoying as theres too many brands and over here its hard to know which ones are good as they dont seem to be popular in the states

[entrancedbymyGCC]

The ones I've worked with are Harrison's (my birds aren't wild about them, though), Roudybush, ZuPreem Fruit Blend (Scotty loves them, what can I say) and Scenic. I liked the Scenic, but it seems to get rancid awfully fast. The p15 looks sort of like PrettyBird. You could compare the p15 to the Harrison's, from their website (http://www.harrisonsbirdfoods.com/index.html) Harrison's:

Ingredients: *Ground Yellow Corn, *Ground Hulless Barley, *Ground Hulled Millet, *Ground Soybeans, *Ground Shelled Peanuts, *Ground Shelled Sunflower Seeds, *Ground Lentils, *Ground Rice, *Ground Green Peas, *Ground Alfalfa, *Ground Toasted Oat Groats, Chia Seed, Calcium Carbonate, Montmorillonite Clay, Ground Dried Sea Kelp, Vitamin E Supplement, Sea Salt, Spirulina, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, d-Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite.
*CERTIFIED ORGANIC INGREDIENT

Guaranteed Analysis: Crude protein (min.) 14%, crude fat (min.) 6%, crude fiber (max.) 4.5%, moisture (max.) 10%.

I just noticed the website has a fairly extensive oveseas "where to buy" section.

[zazanomore]

I'm currently switching the budgies and cockatiel onto pellets from their premium seed diet. We are using the roudybush crumbles, which seem to be a great texture and size for the keets and Einstein. I'm pretty sure blue throated conures are pretty small, so perhaps you could try the same.

[idlepirate]

We are using the roudybush crumbles

im looking everywhere for roudybush but seems like i can only order it from america (shipping cost is more then the bag itself lol)
was actually keen on the roudybush now but i need to find it first.

Been trying to read these all up online, now im more confused then ever haha.
On ebay ive been able to find zupreem fruity blend but yea much more expensive as its ordered in specially.otherwise online i can also order harrisons (450g pack maybe to see how the reaction is?)

So currently down to zupreem or harrison. everythings expensive so only worried about risking lorenzo not liking any of it,
i guess then theres always this nutribird p15 but i was hoping someone would have heard about it, cant be a good sign....

thinking about just risking a small bag of harrisons for the same price as the nutribird. anybody know a rough rate where birds like or dislike harrisons? looks like the majority dont like them even though they appear to be the best on the market.

[captwest]

Hey idlepirate, I'm a real pirate, just 200yrs too late,(jimmy Buffet, "Pirate Looks At 40") any way , about the pellets, Harrison's is steak and zupreem fruity colored whatever is hotdogs, I'd get the plain colored organic if given a choice.The fruity stuff has added dyes,sugars etc.and i've had aproblem with birds picking out their favorite color and not eating the other.The Harrison's is a bit pricey but for my pet that's what i'd feed. That being said i feed my birds Kaytee Exact Orginial at about half the price just dosen't say Organic. ( which i'm not sure that organic makes much of a difference except as a feel good thing,truth in advertisingif you know what i mean) You might be better off with the smaller bag and store in your freezer, as it will mold ,Just my 2 cents worth, Richard PS check the sell by date

[entrancedbymyGCC]

. ( which i'm not sure that organic makes much of a difference except as a feel good thing,truth in advertisingif you know what i mean)

I'm going to quibble a little. It is definitely the case that organic doesn't change the nutritional value of anything, but certainly with some produce the amount of residual pesticide is less. I don't worry about that too much for myself, but I do pay attention for the birds a bit more. I am not sure how much grains are affected by that. Organic production methods also have an environmental/ecological impact, which is, I guess, more of a feel-good thing in the sense that our bird's won't understand that, but in the sense of hedging things in terms of a sustainable future, I think it is a good thing to encourage, although definitely a personal choice thing. For myself, I buy organic up to a point, but I don't insist on it or pay a huge premium for it. I consider it a selling point, but only when the price is right... however, I can understand why someone would want to go with organic.

[captwest]

I agree with all that you say. My point was that there's no oversight committee to assure that the ingredients are truly organic.We can only hope that we are getting what we pay for.

[entrancedbymyGCC]

. My point was that there's no oversight committee to assure that the ingredients are truly organic.

The USDA "Organic" seal is actually a meaningful, overseen designation. Many of the other thigns out there, such as "all natural", and even terms like "free range" and "cage free" are not, but the USDA seal, which Harrison's carries is a real thing.

Check this out:http://www.ams.usda.gov/AMSv1.0/nop