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Refined Palm Oil

Postby idlepirate » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:40 am

Is it ok to feed refined Palm oil from the grocery store to my conure?
I hear they love it and it's great for their feathers...at least for African Greys. Would it still be healthy for a conure?
I know theres the red palm oil which is better but it's harder to find and the refined one is really cheap in the normal shop so thought I'd give it a shot....?
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Re: Refined Palm Oil

Postby Nevermore » Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:13 am

I don't know. I've had some people tell me the stuff from the grocery store is fine. Have you tried asking your vet if they will order some for you? Sometimes they will.
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Re: Refined Palm Oil

Postby sidech » Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:52 am

I don't know, but I'm sure you can find the real stuff from a web site. Even though it's expensive, since you keep it in the fridge and give ridiculously small quantities, the bottle will last more than 1 year. I've had mine for almost 4 months, and I haven't even used 1/4 of it, for an Eclectus.

If I were you I'd buy the Aviglo.
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Re: Refined Palm Oil

Postby patdbunny » Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:24 am

I have a question for you guys - Why pay more for something that's labeled for an animal, when human grade is just as good, possibly better and cheaper? My thinking's always been that there are no purity standards to pet products, but there are for human products. So I made the leap that human grade would be safer than anything labeled for pets.

I'm not familiar with using palm oil specifically, but I mean just as a general concept? For instance my neighbor paid close to $50 for a tube of hydrocortisone from his vet with pet labeling, whereas a tube of hydrocortisone from Walmart's $3.
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Re: Refined Palm Oil

Postby kaylayuh » Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:31 am

patdbunny wrote:I have a question for you guys - Why pay more for something that's labeled for an animal, when human grade is just as good, possibly better and cheaper? My thinking's always been that there are no purity standards to pet products, but there are for human products. So I made the leap that human grade would be safer than anything labeled for pets.

I'm not familiar with using palm oil specifically, but I mean just as a general concept? For instance my neighbor paid close to $50 for a tube of hydrocortisone from his vet with pet labeling, whereas a tube of hydrocortisone from Walmart's $3.


That's generally what I do, especially considering in the U.S. we have no pet product safety standards but we do have human safety standards. I mean, think of all the recalls we've had for pet products in the U.S. in recent years, specifically from pet foods imported from places like China.

I haven't used palm oil and don't know the benefits of it for birds, but I'd venture to guess that human grade palm oil is just as safe for parrots as something labeled specifically for parrots.
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Re: Refined Palm Oil

Postby sidech » Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:37 pm

patdbunny wrote:I have a question for you guys - Why pay more for something that's labeled for an animal, when human grade is just as good, possibly better and cheaper? My thinking's always been that there are no purity standards to pet products, but there are for human products. So I made the leap that human grade would be safer than anything labeled for pets.

I'm not familiar with using palm oil specifically, but I mean just as a general concept? For instance my neighbor paid close to $50 for a tube of hydrocortisone from his vet with pet labeling, whereas a tube of hydrocortisone from Walmart's $3.



I agree with you 100% patdbunny. Selling the same thing for animals under a slightly different name is just a marketing scheme. But the OP is talking about a different product, ie refined Palm oil versus Red Palm oil. If they were the same, I'd say get it from the grocery store, but from what I understand, they are not.
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Re: Refined Palm Oil

Postby patdbunny » Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:46 pm

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I get it now! Ferget I said anything. I'm going to go sit in a corner now. ;)
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Re: Refined Palm Oil

Postby liz » Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:58 pm

I was on prednizone when one of my Chihuahuas was prescribed the same thing. When I saw the price they wanted to charge I told them I would just share mine. Prednizone is cheap. I talked to my pharmacist. He said to get a prescription from the vet and he would fill it a lot cheaper.

Have you seen the price of unsalted peanuts in a pet store? I get them for $2.50 per bag in the grocery store.
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Re: Refined Palm Oil

Postby TheNzJessie » Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:11 pm

just make sure its verified. palm oil plantations are tearing down homes for orangutans and other primates.

usually its the cheaper brands are not certified, like cheaper shampoos are animal tested. so if you dont know what to look for look for the higher priced ones.
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Re: Refined Palm Oil

Postby idlepirate » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:54 pm

Thanks everyone for your comments:)
Im still confused though if refined is the same thing as the one you should feed birds? or well how many diff types of palm oil can you get? is there a bad kind?

No idea if its verified, i only just discovered it a few days ago and was out shopping and saw it and just bought a jar. half of it is in indian and it doesnt say anything much on the jar besides the name.

but lorenzo doesnt seem to like it at all, thought no parrot can say no to it?he senses it on his food and refuses to go near it, even grapes:( so maybe better that im starting with the cheap stuff.
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