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Re: Homemade Acrylic/Plexiglass cages

Postby banuvatt » Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:58 pm

I thought that galvanized hardware cloth was made from steel not aluminum. I heard that aluminum is the only metal besides stainless steel that is safe for birds. Plain steel is only dangerous because of the possibility of rust.
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Re: Homemade Acrylic/Plexiglass cages

Postby Pajarita » Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:23 am

Yes, regular wire mesh is made out of steel but not stainless steel, just regular steel. And, because regular steel rusts (A LOT), they coat it through a galvanization process with zinc or with PVC. There are also aluminum and plastic meshes, too. The cheap and common wire mesh -like the one used for chicken coops, for example- is the galvanized one. The aluminum one is more expensive because it's more flexible and doesn't rust - but it does oxidize (which is the 'dark' that appears on the surface and needs to be scrubbed off because it's toxic - something very hard to do with a mesh)

Regular steel is made out of iron and carbon while stainless steel is iron with chromium and some other stuff I now forget.
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Re: Homemade Acrylic/Plexiglass cages

Postby banuvatt » Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:17 pm

The PVC coated wire mesh I imagine would be okay with non parrots like passerines or pigeons/doves. Since parrots are notorious chewers while a PVC pipe for them may be extremely hard to chew if not impossible. A wire mesh one there's definitely a chance of them chewing/ingesting it because of how small it is so they could get their beaks around it.

This is what I found on aluminum "Aluminum is also a safe metal. It doesn’t rust like iron or steel, but instead corrodes into aluminum oxide, a grayish white substance that is powdery in appearance. Unlike rust, aluminum oxide is non-toxic when ingested or handled." This is the link to where I got the information https://birdtricksstore.com/blogs/birdt ... %20handled.
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Re: Homemade Acrylic/Plexiglass cages

Postby Pajarita » Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:40 am

I do not trust anything that is put out by the bird industry. Period. See this:

https://www.dermaglide.com/aluminum-oxi ... h-hazards/
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Re: Homemade Acrylic/Plexiglass cages

Postby banuvatt » Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:49 am

Thank you for sharing that information with me, I'll sure to only use stainless steel. I read to prevent steel wire mesh that had the galvanizing removed from rusting to paint over it with a bird safe paint such as Rust-oleum or Kylon not sure how true that is though.
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Re: Homemade Acrylic/Plexiglass cages

Postby Pajarita » Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:45 am

You do not need to do anything to stainless steel - no paint, no stripping, no washing, no nothing - it's good as it is as long as it's stainless steel and not regular steel.
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Re: Homemade Acrylic/Plexiglass cages

Postby banuvatt » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:07 am

If I made you kind of confused I am sorry I was talking about if I were to use bare steel then I would have to paint it.
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