Cage Cleaner wrote:marie83 wrote:Ollies cage is 30x24, he only ever flies back and forth in the longest direction, he tends to climb round or hop onto a toy/perch to cross in the shortest direction. Even if he did fly he wouldn't get more than a couple of wing flaps in. Harlies cage (cockatiel) is too small for her imo and is only just smaller than the 24x24 one you have and she is only slightly bigger than ollie. She couldn't possibly fly in it, that makes me sad but she frightens to easily and wont have a sleep cage so its for her own safety atm. She can come out her cage almost all day every day though.
I've no idea why you thought the cage was too big, for a caged smaller species of conure I would say it was a good size, even bigger would be even more ideal
30x30x65 is very very large. Keep in mind that volume increases with length disproportionately. That means that a 15x15 is much MUCH smaller than a 30x30. So it depends on waht you mean by "a little" smaller. If it's even 22x22 it's much smaller than a 24x24, rather than a little.
24x24 is fairly standard, even for iron cages. Very few are larger with appropriate bar spacing, and even fewer are much larger.
I also explain why I find it too large in my previous post.
Wow, look I'm sorry if you've misunderstood my post or if I have misunderstood yours because I get the impression you feel like you being slated for you decision. Maybe people don't agree with your choice but they too are just trying to put across why they disagree.
Personally I disagree with your choice- I think the bigger the cage the better, the bar spacing you had was suitable for your bird so your right that big cages with correct spacing are really hard to come by so you were really lucky to come by such a good cage.
I do appreciate the size difference in cages, the cage I mentioned for Harlie I feel is too small for any bird and its not 15x15 like you mentioned. She's only in it for her own safety at night- not my convenience, I would prefer her to have a much bigger cage but we've settled on this one because she has so much out of cage time but even then she should still have a bigger cage, if yours is out nearly all day too then I would say yours is just about ok too.
I would love to have cages of the same size you had for mine- there are design flaws with every cage I've come across. We live in a first floor flat, with Ollies cage the size it is we cannot wheel the cage outside for cleaning or even into the bathroom (we would have to completely dismantle it) so we don't. I have to put sheets and paper on the floor and nearby furniture, take the tray out the bottom and physically climb inside it to clean it properly, attach toys and probably remove Ollie from inside in an emergency if he didn't want to leave the cage on his own. That's not easy as I have joint problems with my knees and hips and I've bashed my head multiple times whilst doing it. Also there's loads of awkward parts to ollies cage where dirt/poop/old food gets trapped so it takes a while to give it a thorough clean (toothbrushes and a spray bottle with a powerful jet work wonders at flushing the crap out).
Its inconvenient of course it is and tbh I would love to not have to go to those lengths but if that's what I have to do to give my birds the best life I can give them then that is what I will do.
Alternatively I could put all the pets in cages that don't give them much space cuz I'm sure my boyfriend would be grateful to have a large portion of his living room back but that wouldn't do the pets much good. Even the mice have massive spaces and I've 21 of them spread through 3 "mansions" as we call them lol.