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Review: Petco Designer Mink Brown Standing Parrot Habitat

Postby Cage Cleaner » Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:18 pm

EDIT 5/1/2015: I sold this cage on CL a while ago, and will not be buying it again. Reasons listed below:

1) I mainly found it very difficult to keep clean to my standards. It has unnecessary cracks for debris to settle into and get stuck. The size is prohibitively large to fit through most average doors, making it difficult to wheel out to hose down.

2) At 30 inches wide and long, it's too deep for a person of average height to reach the back without contorting and shoving in a shoulder, which leads to potential behavioral issues from a parrot that is fond of ducking and avoiding. It's also hard to attach toys that require you to hold it from the inside and screw it on from the outside. Size also makes cleaning hard. Size makes anything that needs to be done in a cage hard. This is one rare example where bigger is NOT better in a bird cage.

3) It is of cheap construction. Seed guards and trays are very flimsy and can be bent by hand. Seed guards have slots in them when attached, which hold debris. Whole cage is made of material that rusts very easily compared to other higher end brands (King's Cage, Elite Cage (discontinued)). Parrots live for so long that it is much better to buy something that will last the life time of the bird.

So, summary: Good bang for buck, if you are going for size and nothing else. But for me, I would rather go with a quality wire 24X24 cage than stick with this wrought iron 30X30 cage.

Original Review:

Just got this item in last night. I'll post my impressions thus far. This cage is for my Sun Conure.

This is the website for the cage: http://www.petco.com/product/114150/Pet ... Redirect=1

Pros:

Keep in mind this cage cost me $220 dollars. It isn't a King's cage, and it isn't a $500+ dollar cage. However, I do have an aluminum King's cage in my home right now (http://www.kingscages.com/ProductDetail ... ACF%202522), as well as a stainless steel Avian Adventures. The avian adventures is crap, so when doing comparisons I'll do them against the Kings cage.

1) This cage is HUGE. I knew that it was 30x30, but didn't actually realize how big 30x30 was. With seed skirts added, the footprint of this cage is even bigger. I could keep two Sun Conures in here with room to spare. However, if you're a believer of the height dominance theory, and aren't a very tall person yourself, then this cage may be too tall for you. With the play top (which is not removable, although the perch is), the cage is about 5'5".

2) Assembly was easy, but it took me few times to get it right as the instructions don't specify the front and back of the cage bottoms where the tray slides in and out. So I had to redo some parts so that the sliding tray would go in the front and hit the back right. Otherwise, totally do-able with one person, and it comes with the allen wrench. It did take about an hour and a half to get it totally assembled, but I did take my time.

3) Horrizontal bars on two full sides. This is featured on the Kings Cage, as well. It would be more ideal to have horizontal bars on three or even four sides but this isn't the case.

4) Locking food crocks. I was surprised about this one, since this is supposed to be a cheap cage. But I guess Petco meant this cage for much larger birds than Sun Conures, too. But yes, the stainless steel bowls that come with the cage cannot be removed by the bird, as the cage has a wire that goes above the bowl that makes it impossible (for you or the bird) to lift the bowl without the food door open. Kings cage also features a deterrent, but it actually isn't impossible to remove the bowl (the bowl just has little knobs on either side that makes it more difficult. I find this feature annoying, actually, since it makes getting the food bowl out so much more of a hassle when you're rushing.)

5) Comes with stainless steel food bowls x5 (three for inside, two for play top above). Personally I prefer ceramic, but for a $220 dollar cage I'm not going to complain about stainless steel.

6) Locking food bowl doors. There is no way that the bird can open the food door from the inside. The lock isn't fancy as it is on the King's cage, though. It's very simple-- it requires the handle to be inverted and slid out completely to open. Otherwise, it doesn't open. As the part where this is on the cage is solid, impossible to do from the inside.

7) Sturdy enough construction, although the cage bar spacing is a bit larger than the stated 1/2". Something between 1/2 and 3/4 inch is more accurate. I haven't actually measured, but my GCC's is 3/4, and my Sun's current is 1/2. Wire gauge is heavier than I was fearing, as well. Again, not 100% sure what it is (11-12 maybe?), but it is more than good enough for my Sun Conure. Again, no King's cage.

7) Play top w/ play hook, although this is up to personal preference. I was worried that the play top would make the cage too dark, but it does offer the option of taking the top sliding tray out as the cage does come w/ bars on top. I was also worried that there wouldn't be bars up on top and would make hanging toys impossible. But there are bars, and, I find that the cage is so massively tall that lighting isn't really a problem.

8) Color: To me, the color is a pro, and one of the reasons I was attracted to this cage. It's muted and dark enough to allow for the bird to be clearly visible, as well as not look ridiculous next to my furniture. But, some people may find it depressing and dark. It's a brownish shade w/ slight red in it.

9) Escape proof main door. The lock is no King's cage lock (which are amazing), but it works well enough as it has a locking position that the latch can be slid into. Additionally, there is a hang tab on top that needs to be held up to open. HOWEVER, see Con, #1:

Cons:

1) Landing platform -NOT- escape proof. This is my major gripe with this cage. The main door that this platform is on is actually very well-designed and not escape proof. The latch slides into a locking position, and there is an additional hanging tab on top that needs to be held up to open the door. HOWEVER, why take all the precaution if the door in this door that becomes the landing platform isn't escape proof? The only thing holding this door closed is another hanging tab that can easily be pushed aside by the bird. I doubt my bird is smart enough to figure it out, but this may warrant zip tying or additional clipping (both making the use of the landing platform rather difficult (or at best annoying).

2) Overall, everything about the cage is sturdy. Except the flimsy seed skirts, and flimsy pull-out trays. The seed skirts and tray -will- dent if knocked the wrong way. They are super thin and bendable w/ my fingers. I guess for a $220 dollar cage, they had to save somewhere. The seed skirt also doesn't line up perfectly at the very edges, but then again the King's cage doesn't either.

3) Food bowls on one side directly on top of each other. Yuck. There are three interior food bowls. The side that has two of them has them directly on top of each other. Potential droppings.

4) Already mentioned in pros, but this belongs in cons, too. Only two sides of horizontal bars, as opposed to 3 or ideally, 4.

5) Tall cage. Height dominance believers, stay away.

6) Non-removable play top The perch is removable, and with it removed, the cage actually looks quite nice as it doesn't look like something is missing. However, the whole play top is not. There are still going to be aspects of the cage that are just as tall.

7) No natural perches. It comes with straight wooden dowels. Not an issue for me as I can find plenty of manzinita perches at the local bird fair. But, just not ideal.

Conclusion: This cage is more than worth my $220. This is the deal of the century, pending a negative zinc test. I had hesitations because of the price, but I am still pretty amazed. Will post more as the honey-moon period wears off.
Last edited by Cage Cleaner on Sat May 02, 2015 2:49 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Review: Petco Designer Mink Brown Standing Parrot Habitat

Postby Michael » Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:28 pm

If you end up needing zip ties, don't use plastic as the bird can eventually chew it through. Instead get the stainless steel ones. They're like a dollar each but worth it.

Also, if the food doors are like on the picture, don't kid yourself. A tinkering parrot with all day on its hands can open it from inside by push/pulling back and forth on it from inside a lot. I suspected Kili was getting out with that kind of food door lock so I've been adding a second spring loaded clip to that to keep her in. This is what's dumb about all the cages cause they'll put a lot of security into the main door and then make everything else flimsy and insecure.

Nice review.
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Re: Review: Petco Designer Mink Brown Standing Parrot Habitat

Postby Cage Cleaner » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:25 am

After reading your response, I went to look at it again. I still doubt that a bird could get out from the feed doors as it does require the latch to be completely held upside down in order for it to actually slide out in a position for the door to be openable.

The bird can push and shove all it wants from the inside, and it will probably slide the latch a bit, but there is no way that it can also turn it upside down as a) it's weighted down rather well, and b) the solid area behind the latch keeps it from accessing it directly.

There's no risk for opening if the bird just slides the latch w/o inversion, as there is a stop to it.

But, who am I to say. I've never had experience with this type of cage before. Maybe I'll take some pictures.
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Re: Review: Petco Designer Mink Brown Standing Parrot Habitat

Postby Tarkus » Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:22 am

The metallurgical results will be negative. At this point it's a rare day they are possitive.
I saw that cage yesterday with a grey in it, nice bang for the buck. I would also not trust the food latches. Just my .02

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Re: Review: Petco Designer Mink Brown Standing Parrot Habitat

Postby Cage Cleaner » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:27 pm

Additional thoughts:

Pro: Has a great toy hook. Strong, sturdy, and has 3 recessed areas and a loop, designed to fit four toys or more. Perfect to hang a hanging forage toy. Birds also love climbing up and down it.

Con: Toy hook is very thick, so the small, triangle quick links cannot fit on it. I have to use the slightly larger ones that are actually an oval. Also, it is very tall, so the average conure-sized toy is too short for it. Requires an extension to be the right height, or longer toys. Height of toy hook wouldn't be an issue if we're talking about an African Grey or Amazon, however.

Additional Con: Good luck covering the cage, if you're a believer in that. With the toy hook, the cage is well over 6 feet tall, and even without it, the cage is huge.
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Re: Review: Petco Designer Mink Brown Standing Parrot Habitat

Postby Michael » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:33 pm

Black King Sized bed sheet from walmart. Stitch two together if not big enough.
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Re: Review: Petco Designer Mink Brown Standing Parrot Habitat

Postby Pomlover2586 » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:28 pm

Would this cage be suitable for a White Bellied Caique?
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Re: Review: Petco Designer Mink Brown Standing Parrot Habitat

Postby Cage Cleaner » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:54 am

Yes. The bars are too thick to be chewed.
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Re: Review: Petco Designer Mink Brown Standing Parrot Habitat

Postby Pomlover2586 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:49 am

Ok So I bought this cage for my WB Caique........2 hours, 2 people, 1 sliced finger, 2 sore backs, and 2 headaches later the cage is finished And keep in mind part of my husband's jo is to put together cages at work.... needless to say this one wasn't easy-easy :roll:

I like the size of this cage....It's massive!!!! Wish the toy stand on the play part could fit into the opposite side of the cage....in my home it won't work where it's positioned. Oh well........I also wish the cups were not on top of each other......but overall I think the cage was a good buy.

How have you guys hung toys from the top of the cage? Or do i have it set up wrong? The very top of my cage is solid- the bottom of the play tray......or should I put the grate without a handle in first and then the tray on top? Not sure that would fit.......

I have a twirly rope swing for my boy- but with the top not having bars I have no idea how to hang it......
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Re: Review: Petco Designer Mink Brown Standing Parrot Habitat

Postby Cage Cleaner » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:39 am

I had only very minor issues with assembly. I didn't find it challenging, and did it by myself. I don't assemble cages for a living, and this was the first cage I've assembled. I, however, am used to assembly directions resembling that of Ikea furniture, and found that this was actually a pleasant walk in the park in comparison.

I'm sorry to hear that it was so difficult for you. The only issue I found challenging was having to turn the cage around so that the tray would hit the back and go in from the front. I had put that in backward as the directions didn't specify.

There is a grate that goes on top. If you put the cross section downward, there is more than enough room between grate and tray to hook toys to it, as it is recessed for that reason. The cage should have come with two grates: one for the top and one for the bottom of the cage. Otherwise, the bird could escape if you pull the sliding tray out.

Also, you -can- switch the toy took to the opposite side, if you are willing to have the food/water dishes face away from you.

Hope that helps.
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