Pajarita wrote:I can only tell you what I, myself, have seen in my birdroom. I don't know anything about this 'farm', its practices or whether they are telling the truth or not but, without making any judgments and based on my personal experience, people who sell a product don't always tell you the truth about it.
Its where I worked, it is fact thank you.
As for the rest comparing kids to birds is completely irrelevant. You see socialisation and training as bad, I get that, I don't see it as bad because I don't see the right way to do it as being throwing a million different experiences at a bird all at once, which yes some people do but not everyone. Start listening to others as individuals not as a generalisation and putting a rational debate forwards rather than being stuck in your way being the only way. I honestly do appreciate that your a lot better read and experienced than most people but if your seriously suggesting that people don't need to make any effort to introduce novel things to a single or one of few/differing species birds I would suggest that that makes no sense. Its up to us to provide what a flock would give, your birds have a lot of other birds to use as rolemodels, you were talking right through to adolescence further up not just "baby" stage.....