Bird woman wrote:Brandon, sounds like you have had a stressful week, take a deep breath and think things through before you make a decision about mango. Is it the new bird taking your time because I've never heard you in such mood . Mango is probably acting out due to a new bird in the house. I am the queen of crazy households with new birds coming in too quick and changing the flock dynamics. {pajirta warned me} Most of the time for the worse for months and months until things finally settle down. Sometimes , well most of the time the other birds get jealous and don't understand attention being paid to the new bird. Give some extra time and love to mango to reassure he's not being swapped out for another. BW
Michael wrote:The bird doesn't want to do something that you want it to do. Clipping its wings will not make it want to do those things any more. Instead the bird will experience internal agony with being forced to do what it doesn't want. You may be happy you forced what you want out of it but this is not a mutual nor a loving relationship. On the other hand, if you treat flying away as feedback for your own failure to behave in a way that the bird is content with (the proof is in the voluntary cooperation), then it gives you the opportunity to learn how to behave the right way with the bird that gets what you want in a way the bird wants. This way the friendship is real and mutual.
Taming, training, and management of motivation are the mechanisms for achieving that properly. They are explained in great detail in my book.
Bird woman wrote:Kinda thought something like that might be going on! You were starting to sound like me when the fids are overwhelming me. Take a deep breath and put some music on, seems to put all of us in a better space. BW
Pajarita wrote:Brandon, he gets away from you because, in the past, you have forced him to accept things that stressed him out. Michael is 100% correct, when a bird flies away from us and refuses to do something that should be something he likes (dinner and a nice roosting perch when dusk falls is way up there in the list of 'goodies' for parrots!), it's not the bird's fault, it's ours for doing something that made the bird distrust us so it's always us who need the 'readjustment' not the birds. If you clip him now, you will be compounding the mistake and reinforcing his belief that you cannot be trusted - it's not really going to solve anything, it will make things easier for you right now but, in the long run, it will make things worse. I am sure that if you leave him alone (no taking him out to the mall/playground/public transportation/etc, no forcing him to bathe when he doesn't want to, no clipping him again, etc), turn off the lights when the sun is setting and put his seed dinner in his cage, he will go in (of course, for this to work, you can't free-feed protein).
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